oh Suzi thanks a million yeah i should have told you she sprawls all over the place there’s no sharing a bed with her i tried it one night tom was away and had my gsd cinders and Daizy in the bed and ended up sleeping with the girls so from then on she slept down stairs……. Poor Cinders was only on the second turn of her sleep and you brought her off out in the cold im sure she thinks your stone mad but will realise it was all worth while when she settles in her new home.. Thanks again….